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	title of this thread your message i just measured the original ball clock from 1956 to the one that i got from Howard miller the new howard millers are a little larger but i find that not so unusual. I think it was more than likely when they retooled it and they tried to make it more marketable anybody know about the astrick clock i have the howard miller also in that one , I can not see why anyone would want the vitra in that one cause it is just like the howard miller with exception that the minute hand is smaller, and about 200. cheaper. associated web images (optional) associated web link (optional) your email your password create a forums account \| you forgot your password?