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	title of this thread your message i just ordered three sets of Hands for various clocks from Vitra and the Vitra eye clock does have the 2nd hand as the kite, nothing else does, The lady said as time goes by(pun on words) and people are replaceing the mechanisms all the time, some mechanisms do not support the second hand, while others do. a interesting note all the clocks that i bought from white and All world say the quartz movements were made in America, so we are leading the world in quartz movements yea!! so that makes your clocks guys and gals 60 percent made in America as that is the heart of the clock, I did buy a new Howard miller clock for my little boys room (why i have no idea when i have 100 ) but in big embossed plastic it said made in China, I am beginning to think that these all world furniture clocks really and truly were the best deal that any of us have come across in a long time, just not a cheap knock off, I have had the Vitra side by side and not even a experts could tell the difference just a different factory thats all. with American parts HELL of A DEAL. associated web images (optional) associated web link (optional) your email your password create a forums account \| you forgot your password?