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	title of this thread your message A fair and honest argument could be made that (apparently) 75% or more of the "Nelson Clocks" weren't even designed by Nelson. Harper, Pyle and others. If the Vitra clocks were exactly the same as the Howard Miller clocks...right down to the second hand being avaiable on those clock that originally had one, and one could order either an electric, wind-up, or battery motor, AND finally sell them as a reasonable, then I would not bother with knockoffs and buy the original. I prefer electric or wind-up clocks to battery powered....call me odd. The fact too that many of the Vitra clocks do not have the second hand is a big turn off. So, in my book, these clocks and the Bauhaus pieces of furniture (Mies, Eillen Gray, La Courbusier) are OK to buy as knockoffs. All post WWII things should be originals...in my own twisted world. associated web images (optional) associated web link (optional) your email your password create a forums account \| you forgot your password?