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	title of this thread your message I wouldn't be surprised if you could buy the clock with either type of hands, or possibily Howard Miller used both types of hands. Who knows? I get the impression that the end of the Nelson/Howard Miller relationship might have been a bit sticky, and perhaps Howard Miller continued to use the Nelson hands and had to stop due to legal issues. I could be wrong, but I don't get the impression it was a clean break. associated web images (optional) associated web link (optional) your email your password create a forums account \| you forgot your password?