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	title of this thread your message Thanks for the input on the Eames Lounge but let me explain a little before we jump the gun. It was a "test chair", and not really even a true lounge. He explained that there were thousands and thousands of these "garbage chairs" sitting around (his words). He explained that after Charles Eames gave final approval for the 670 Lounge design, Charles Eames ordered that the majority of the test parts be destroyed at the factory. The guy I bought them from was allowed by Charles Eames to assemble two chairs from the parts that were sitting around (one for him and one for his wife). He said that he took the best parts that he could to assemble the two chairs. However, he said most of what was lying around had drilled holes or was poor rosewood grain, or that the plywood wasn't holding well. These parts were NEVER meant to see production daylight. Also, he was able to take cushions - they are the goosdown fill. Because the wood parts were tested on, this chair origonly used only a single snap per cushion. NO CLIPS AT ALL! He said it worked OK for about three years, obviously not a good design. After that, he said that the cushions wouldn't hold well. Also, that the snaps (Glued on. not all of them went through the wood) were falling off. He said he didn't use the chair for 10 years after that. Then, when finally pulled it out of the attic, he put the newer clips on to try to get the cushions to stay. Then, in the late 80's he had to use the velcro. As for Vitra tracking down prototypes - THIS IS NOT A PROTOTYPE. I nor he ever claimed it to be. This chair was simply assembled from "test parts" to create a lounge. He didn't work at the Eames Office in Ca, he was a factory worker here in Michigan. He told me that they would get orders to try this button and that snap and these clips and that... He got to meet the Eames a few times and was asked about his opinion about some of the design ideas on the 670. He doesn't claim to be anything more than a former employee that had the oportunity to work on the 670 line. Honestly, if you were there and saw the picture of him with Charles and Ray, you wouldn't have doubted him either. I wanted to buy the pic, but it seemed rude to ask. I paid $200 for the lounge. Why would he lie to make $200? He also sold me the 8 fiberglass chairs, a MINT LCM, and a MINT Nelson tray table. I know you guys know a lot about HM and other midcentury history, that's why I post here. In this case though, I'm inclined to believe the 90 year old guy that had a pic of him with Charles and Ray at the factory. associated web images (optional) associated web link (optional) your email your password create a forums account \| you forgot your password?