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	title of this thread your message Koen recently made reference to arrière-garde efforts of architects. As a non-French/Flemish speaker, and as a lover of puns, I had to wonder what the difference in meaning (and coarseness) would be to refer to a derriere-garde effort, rather than an arriere-garde effort by architects. :-) Please forgive me. associated web images (optional) associated web link (optional) your email your password create a forums account \| you forgot your password?