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	title of this thread your message (I was just writing this to put it on the bling thread) NO NO NO YES NO YES Substance OR Bling May be you are not using the right words... And it also depends on our own definition (each definition for each one of us) of: Substance . n . Bling At a point, It,s like water and oil. I think that the blinger it is an object, the less substance it will have. women models comparison ,,inteligent models,, The more a man look at the body of the model, the less will listen what she says. : - ) Maybe that,s it, maybe sexy but not pornography. May be attractive design but not bling! Do we need bling? ---- On the other hand Now, I understand that there are people that need bling. Substance and style is new? Dc Wilson said ,, I do not think substance and bling is a new idea. Far from it. I think it is an old idea. ,, Which are the examples of the past are you talking about? Or are you talking about luxury? The Italians are teachers on this. Or may be this is something new.. Any good example of substance AND bling? Perhaps a Rolex? Other thing, one basic rule is: ,,first do, and then think,,, it,s sounds strange, but it works!, designers must do, and critics think if they want. I mean if you think/you fell it,s time to bling, let,s bling the world and see what happens! associated web images (optional) associated web link (optional) your email your password create a forums account \| you forgot your password?