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	title of this thread your message I was deliberately trying to avoide the ESU issue. Its a gray area. Personally i'd buy Miller, but thats me. Olive - I agree - Mr. Demetrios needs some help with language, but I can see through that to his point. I disagree about pricing - it actually hasnt changed much when you account for inflation. Whitespike - I disagree. The Eames have always designed for a 'need' - but that is a generalized need - not a specific need. (and ps. some of the pieces were designed for very specific uses: Alu Group, Alu Chaise, LaFonda - not the general public) Personally, I dont think $250 for a plastic chair is that bad of a price. Ikea charges up to $100 and their designs are half-assed at best, downright crap at worst. As to materiality - I think its still in the shock phase. Can you imagine the disappointment in the 80's when the 670 went from Rosewood to Walnut? But people will adjust. I'm not suggesting you polish Demetrios' boots - but the overal tone of this thread was highly negative towards him. He's protecting his best interest and I really dont see why that offends people. I dont think any one of us can lay any sort of claim to the Eames designs other than him. Do you? If you want to express your opinion email him. He's very personable in his responses. Barry - Herman Miller is the 3rd largest furniture manufacturer in the world. The enourmous majority of that business is corporate clientelle. And like it or not - corporations redecorate every once in a while. The average family end user will probably hold onto their chairs much longer - but they represent a tiny fraction of the end user. Finch - I preach vintage against those who preach "this is the way its SUPPOSED to be." If you want it the way it is 'supposed' to be buy vintage. Also - you're right in terms of quality. Modernica is one of those anomolies in which knock-offs are made relatively well. I tend to slag them off because at one point they represented a number of their own designs, but have recently pushed more into the knock-off market. Its disappointing because it undercuts the legitimacy of their own designs. It speaks of greed rather than pushing design forward -and that dont sit right with me :( associated web images (optional) associated web link (optional) your email your password create a forums account \| you forgot your password?