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	title of this thread your message I think the hand stitching that Knoll (+ FH for PK) use really must contribute at least a little to the price difference. I'm sure most readers have seen this site but it does have a very short photo essay on the manufacturing and good detail about grades of steel etc. Grinding down welds and polishing is an extra-ordinarily dirty and tedious job, also when you roll flat bar into curves the ends allways remain flat (up to about 9") which you can see being cut off in one of the pictures. I think these manufacturers must be milling out a half lap at the X judging by the welding frame. From sketchy memory there were 2 US manufacturers, (Gerry Griffiths and Colonial Iron Craftsmen, at one point called the Avanti chair) and pre-war it was made by Berliner Gewerbe Joseph Mueller and one other I think (Bamberg?). Knoll outsourced the production to Treitel Gratz, a good article here: (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980CE3D91039F930A25757C0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2) Which all just goes to show what a mess the arrangements were, and according to the article Gratz make Tugendhat chairs to order,independant of Knoll, so whats the story there? But if I ever come into bundles of money I'll know where to go to get one. Are there any van der Rohe descendants engaged with Knoll? Sorry I'm rambling, it would be really good if there was a very concise article from start to finish on this. associated web images (optional) associated web link (optional) your email your password create a forums account \| you forgot your password?