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Avoid JMC Furniture / Trading
PLease please DO NOT but from this company. Also go under name of
JMCTRADING.CO.UK
MODERNCLASSICSDIRECT.COM
TRENDTECHHK.COM
I bought a chair and am still waiting for it 18 months later. I have persistantly called and emailed and they have never delivered bor refunded me and I know that im not the only one. Trading standards are onto them as we speak.
please avoid at all costs
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posted by Missj
edited on 03-Nov-09 07:27 AM [edit]
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11-Sep-07 |
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11-Sep-07 |
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pumkin
sorry pumkin In our country cowboys are the good guys maybe their are pumkins
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19-Nov-07 |
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20-Nov-07 |
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get together
why don't you all get together and sue the pants of this guy/ company and contact companies house too to make them aware of your actions.
then stick with the reputable shops that are recommended to you or that have been around for years.
simon
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20-Nov-07 |
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police fraud office
ohh i forgot.
It would be prudent to get together amd establish through all your cases that the company set out to defraud you from the beginning and that way get the police involved.
They have far more power than trading standards
Simon
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20-Nov-07 |
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Scotland Yard
Looks like a job for Scotland Yard. If it happened to me, I'd be on the phone with the authorities in a heartbeat.
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05-Dec-07 |
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JMC Trading/Modern Classics Direct
I'm in the same boat as you. After doing a little research I discover our friend has no less than 12 companies registered. I'm currently in the process of taking him to the cleaners. If you want to share any info you can get in touch with me sarah@beatbullying.org
Good luck!
s
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29-May-08 |
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add another one to the list
Same thing - we ordered a chair 4 months ago with the promise of 6-8 weeks. The latest communication from them - 3 more months. Add this one to the list to avoid:
ModernReproductions.com
80 Broad Street
5th Floor
New York, NY 10004
Tel: 212-504-2989
Web: www.modernreproductions.com
John Christopher - john@modernreproductions.com
Supplier - Milly He - milly@trendtechhk.com
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29-May-08 |
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wow
I was just advised in another thread about waiting for the real deal and not to purchase a Chinese knock off from this company. Can't you cancel/dispute via your credit card company?
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30-May-08 |
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aarnio pod chair
The chair he has marked as aarnio pod chair/what is it actually called and where can I get a reproduction of it. I am very poor and would like to buy a cheap reproduction from china, I have been looking for that chair everywhere since I saw a set with it in a club. If anyone can help would be greatly appreciated.
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30-May-08 |
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every one on this forum ...
every one on this forum has been warned that JMC Furniture is pure D scumb !!!
I hope this shows up in Google search that JMC furniture is a bunch of crooks that is the only way the other folks who do not read DA will know they are crooks,
If you post it hopefully more people will be alerted.
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30-May-08 |
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MODERNCLASSICSDIRECT.COM
It looks like these crooks go under several names
I have a feeling the heat gets to hot in the kitchen
and they use other names to hide by
any way avoid them and JMC Tradeing,
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30-May-08 |
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Lots of other complaints abou...
Lots of other complaints about these people when you google 'em. I'd strongly reccomend complaining (with a link to this and other threads) to any newspapers, websites etc who carry their advertising - that really hurts shysters like these.
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30-May-08 |
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JMC FURNITURE/ TRADING
i would almost bet that anyone who orders from these crooks now will look at google first, for some guidance.
I feel sorry for the innocent people that got caught in their greedy sting to rip people off,
but if any one buys from them now it is there own fault... I think the innocent have been warned!!!!!
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02-Jun-08 |
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Recommended designer webshops?
I was just seconds away from being cheated by this scumbags, having placed an order with modernclassicsdirect. In the last instance, just before the transaction went through, I managed to stop the moneytransfer by some helpful staff at PayPal. Phuuuu.....
So, thx a lot for your warnings guys!
My next question is if anyone can recommend a webshop where you actually get what you order. Good quality reproduction of design furniture? I've had a look at a shop advertising and selling via e-bay; modern-furniture-direct. They've got very good feedback score, but seems to be charging heavy shipping cost. Any other webshops you guys can recommend?
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12-Jun-08 |
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13-Jun-08 |
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BY NOW EVERY ONE WHO ...
BY NOW EVERY ONE WHO LOOKS AT GOOGLE SHOULD BE WARNED OR AT THERE WEBSITE
IF NOT TO BAD THEY SHOULD ALWAYS CHECK OUT FURNITURE ON LINE SELLERS .
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE CROOKS FOR A LONG TIME. SO EVERY ONE SHOULD KNOW.
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13-Jun-08 |
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If i google 'avoid...
If i google 'avoid jmc',
this discussion comes up.
if i google 'italian classic direct', not as direct a link.
Should we change the title or start another post directing to
this posting?
I always research a company before i buy, but that was learned the hard way
years ago...still infuriating.
I do think if the title is simplified, it would reach more potential buyers
getting ripped off.
'italianclassicdirect-beware'
I'm not interested in reproductions so i doubt i would end up there,
but that is not the point. An irresponsible seller is just unacceptable behavior
on e-bay or anywhere.
(i have one reproduction from a good company, but i was not well informed
and a bit less educated in what i wanted)
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03-Jul-08 |
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PLEASE LET ME HELP DESTROY THIS BUNCH OF CROOKS
Having ordered my Chair in October 07 I still have nothing.
After emails galore and the lies about delivery dates, I have now been told the chair will be finished in July and here by the end of August. Do I believe this? I think not.
I cannot believe for the first time ever we stupidly bought the furniture on switch not credit card. I think I have lost my money but if I can help anyone get these guys locked up I will happily stand up and be counted.
The numbers I have for them are:
020 7993 6228
0870 042 7398
0870 042 9345
As I am sure you are aware one of these numbers is to an answerphone and the other two - 9 times out of 10 go to an overflow call centre.
Perhaps we should just start to barrage the call centre with calls and they may stop using JMC - John Muppet Christopher.
their direct line is 0207 961 1205 - which they do not answer.
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02-Oct-08 |
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JMC / MODERNCLASSICS
Just thought you might like to see this
Cohen & Christopher Limited T/A Modern Classics Direct ::
C/O Cohen & Christopher Limited 2nd Floor, Berkeley Square House Berkeley Square London W1J 6BD Telepone: 020 7993 5576 Company Registration: 03960665 ...
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23-Oct-08 |
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Now they target ebay!!
I recently bought some chairs via ebay and guess what, they havent arrived!
With a little research I discover the seller actually works for Cohen & Christopher Limited so I'm not expecting to get any chairs any time soon.
Thankfully I'm covered by both Paypal and my Credit Card to I shouldn't have any trouble getting my money back but still, I now need a new supplier!
FYI the guy I bought from goes under modernfurnitureimporter on ebay, and is called Brian English, phone number 0207 9619000.
Please feel free to start calling him, although it's no good as no one answers!
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26-Oct-08 |
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money back with visa - URGENT !!
Hi there,
we did order some chair, stupidly without checking on the net before, and we don't expect anything to get shipped. Until we asked for a refund, there were immediate replies, which then suddenly stopped.
Now,we are wondering how to get a refund from Visa. What did you guys do to convince the credit card company that the money was illegally withdrawn by JMC ? Strictly speaking, JMC should have some kind of order confirmation as all of the genuine web shops have as well. Can't imagine that a simple complain will do the job.
replies highly appreciated !!!
cheers, nick
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26-Oct-08 |
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Nick.....here in the USA,
if you used your VISA card and there's a problem, you call the bank which issued the card.
I don't know how it is in whatever country you're in)....I assume United Kingdom?
Wouldn't you simply file a claim at the bank that issued the VISA card?
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21-Mar-09 |
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Modern Classics Direct
Modern Classics Direct
Waiting for half a year now... Still nothing.
No chairs and no money return. THEY ARE CROOKS.
Are there people who want to get organised and take action against this fraud?
Please let me know via this forum.
Frank from Holland
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23-Apr-09 |
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Modern Classics
Everyone,
I ordered as well on 2/09 and I received a letter on 4/21/09 from Milly He the supposed NY rep, that I need to WIRE a 25% deposit into an account at JP Morgan. Lost 1/2 of full amount because I stopped payment on my credit card before they could charge the remaining balance.
I intend on getting my money back. I'll keep you guys posted. Will be contacting JP Morgan Chase...
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23-Apr-09 |
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duh !
all i can say is what do you expect when you are buying items from companies that specialize in cheap knock-offs ?
do you really expect a high quality company with ethical standards when they are so quick to sell cheap chinese made counterfeit products ?
don't buy fakes !
let this illustrate the point that everyone loses!
-designer
-original manufacturer
-customer
anything to make or save a buck right ??
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03-May-09 |
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04-May-09 |
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is there no recourse?
I have not bought from these companies, but I feel for those who have. Is there no recourse to go after these criminals? Their carnage seems never-ending, as there appears to be no recourse to stop their fraudulent transactions. There needs to be an international body that enforces and deals with internet fraudulent activity. I dont understand how the civilized world can let these criminals get away with this - for years! I am sure that there are many other internet criminals out there (I have been a victim twice) and it is frustrating and disheartening to see these crooks get away with it over and over. Something needs to be done.
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06-Jun-09 |
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another company
Classics In Stock.co.uk is the same scam. Beware. Company is owned by the same John Christopher
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06-Jun-09 |
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registrant for classics in stock
Domain name:
classicsinstock.co.uk
Registrant:
John Christopher
Registrant type:
UK Individual
Registrant's address:
11 Coleman Fields
London
Greater London
N1 7AD
GB
Registrar:
Hostroute.com Limited [Tag = HOSTROUTE]
URL: http://www.nameroute.co.uk
Relevant dates:
Registered on: 25-Jul-2008
Renewal date: 25-Jul-2010
Last updated: 22-May-2009
Registration status:
Registered until renewal date.
Name servers:
ns1.just4dns.com
ns2.just4dns.com
WHOIS lookup made at 12:04:26 06-Jun-2009
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23-Jun-09 |
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another victim of Modern DesignClassics
I paid for my Modern Design Classics furniture by Paypal but it does not show up in my Paypal account. How is this possible?
I wish I had done some research on this band of crooks ...
Is there anyone who has actually EVER received an order from them?
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23-Jun-09 |
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23-Jun-09 |
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try this!!
they delivered !!!!!!
Hi,
I promised to keep you updated. Well it has to be said...filing the fraud report at the london metropolitan police did the trick. As I wrote I put them in copy and two days later the goods were shipped, I was provided with the necessary proof of shipment...and the chairs arrived today save and sound. No trace of Classics in Stock, but enough tape from JCM furniture on the boxes.
Ii can give you the shipping details where the goods came from if interested.
This ends the story for me from CIS. I've posted the adresses where to file your fraud reports earlier. You can do something about it. be persistent, and don't give up. Some of you have spent far more money on the guys than I have.
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07-Jul-09 |
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Report to the Serious Fraud Office
I found this forum too late and like most of you will never see any furniture or any money back. I too have dealt with both Brian English and Milly He and have phoned their call centre on a daily basis but cannot get past the front line staff.
Having read your stories today, I have reported my case to the Serious Fraud Office but they only deal with cases over £1m. I have given them all the various names these people trade under as well as their bank details (where we had to transfer money into). I have also informed them that there are many other cases like mine and together this involves a fraud of over £1m.
I will keep you informed of any progress but in the meantime, I intend to write to John Christopher; Brian English; Milly He to inform them that I have reported them to the SFO. You may wish to do the same.
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08-Jul-09 |
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Refund actually received from John Christopher
I placed an order for a lamp with Modern Classics Direct back in April this year, and paid for it using Bank Transfer, as this method meant a 5% discount.
I received a message from Milly He that they did not have the item in stock and that delivery would be 8-10 weeks.
I then cancelled the order and asked them to return my money - and subsequently exchanged some emails with Milly He and Brian England which I can understand from this blog that several others have tried before me.
I then managed using the internet to find a connection between John Christopher and a certain Graham Cohen from Aynesley Walters Cohen Ltd. I wrote a mail to graham.cohen@awcltd.co.uk explaining my problem which immediately after triggered a reaction from John Christopher who now promised me the refund. It then took a few more mails to/from John Christopher (john@cohenandchristopher.com) and involving Graham Cohen again before I finally received my refund in full yesterday.
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08-Jul-09 |
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09-Jul-09 |
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Metropolitan police
ALWAYS ALWAYS inform the met police as they have jurisdiction over this.
And the more complaints they get them more they have once the hammer falls on these "modern thieves"
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28-Jul-09 |
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29-Jul-09 |
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and what is the prize ?
an inferior and cheaply made chinese counterfeit knock-off of a modern classic ?
was it really worth all that to save a few schillings ??
as i said before, folks who buy knock-offs from these companies ALMOST deserve to get ripped off !
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03-Nov-09 |
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Chewbacca Rugs simmer down
Don't espouse your holier than thou, always buy an original bullsh*t. The fact of the matter is many people cannot afford to pay $2500-$8500 for a single chair or couch that we all know does not cost near that much to manufacture. Sure the knock offs are not as high a quality but the affordability shows you that the cost of manufacturing does not merrit the exorbitant prices lines like Adelta, Kartel, Ligna Roset etc. charge for their products. If the knock off companies can make an almost identical chair for $500 and flip a big profit, why then are these companies charging $4500 for the same item, probably produced down the road or at least components produced down the road in China or India.
If you can afford to buy a $10,000 chair, good for you. If you're not a millionaire then why should you not also be allowed to enjoy affordable modern design. Your snobbery and "I told you so/ you got what you deserve" attitude doesn't make you look better, it actually betrays your lack of perspective, sensibility and class.
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posted by yoyo
edited on 03-Nov-09 03:18 AM [edit]
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17-Nov-09 |
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italianclassicsdirect.co.uk
hi,
i read your posting in the forum. i have ordered chairs and paid for them but the chairs weren“t deliverede yet (after half a year). my question: can I fill in the fraud report at the london metropolitan police that you mention online?
thanks for your help. kind regards, robert from vienna / austria
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18-Nov-09 |
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ohh nooooo
Dear Robert
I am sorry to hear that you have been the victim of these criminals.
The best I can suggest is to call the accountants and ask for Christopher Cohen.
60 Moresby Ave, Surbiton, Surrey KT5 9DS
+44 20 8390 3344
He has a connection with the company.
alternative is to contact your credit card company and try to have the money refunded.
I would also call the Metropolitan police in london as they have jurisdiction over these crooks.
Once you have filed the fraud report I would send a copy to MCD so they can see you mean busines
Good luck and percevere.
Simon
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05-Dec-09 |
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Sino American International LLC
Sino American International LLC is mentiond on the website of italianclassicsdirect.co.uk .
Before ordering i did some research an thougt that it was legit.
Wat is the relation between Sino and Italianclassicssdirect.co.uk ?
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07-Dec-09 |
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Italian Classics Direct
I am sorry to hear about some of you not receiving anything from these jerks. I have to say I have had a horrible experience with them as well but guess that I am luckier than some.
I ordered a whole set of furniture for my apartment as I was on a tight budget but wanted higher quality than Ikea. I was promised within 2 weeks but it has now been almost 2 months and I have been getting the things delivered to me in random deliveries. I had to sleep on the floor for the first week until they delivered a mattress while I waited for the bed! At the moment I have a kitchen table but no chairs, a mattress but no bed and a promise that it will all be here by next week.
The quality of the stuff I ordered has been fine but the service is absolutely horrible. I will never buy from them again and would strongly recommend against it unless you do 3 things;
1) only pay a deposit, DO NOT pay the whole amount (I did which is Stupid!)
2) pay by credit card so that you can get a refund (I paid by direct debit which was Stupid!
3) Be prepared to wait..a long time!
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01-Feb-10 |
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Moern Clasics Direct-I've been scammed
After retuning a table 7 months ago, I have never been refunded! I have chased and chased and now am told I can file in the small claims courts, another expense for me!
DO NOT BUY FROM THESE PEOPLE!
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