OK...
let's break in this new installment...

Won both of these (one on eBay and one off eBay) but they haven't arrived yet.

LRF; about the book.....
I'm trying another tactic. I'm trying to get the book buyers from MOMA and the Walker Art Center interested in backing the idea of the book. Heck, if they think they can sell a bunch than perhaps Peter Schiffer's mind can be changed!

Meanwhile, anybody who has any old Interiors magazines, look through and find as many ads as you can.....we'll need them if this project ever gets off the (damn) ground!

great idea barry all of...
great idea barry all of the old adds will be great
There is a guy on the Internet that sells all of the miller clock catagloges for 125.00 for 10
I had his website but my computer crashed and i lost all of my book marks and have been to busy to try to find the old catalogues and his website any one have any ideas

I purchased all of the...
I purchased all of the re-prints from "that guy" a few years ago. Alot of redundancy but well worth the investment.

If I were to offer good quality reproductions on card stock for of all of them, would people here be interested? I could provide a list of all the catalogs I have...I paid over $100.00...but if people were interested, I be willing to sell them for $50.00 plus the cost of copies/stock

Let me know.

LRF, am on vacation through...
LRF, am on vacation through the 21st. Will shoot you an email on the 22nd or soon thereafter.

on the blog!
Barry had a very good idea!
We have now archived the 'Nelson Clocks' thread on the blog.

(Find it on the blog by using the tags: timepieces, forum or George Nelson)


http://www.designaddict.com/design_addict/blog/index.cfm/Gen...

midmod
If you would not mind making copies of the ads I would be more than delighted to pay for them when you have a chance.
Both Barry and i are starting a data base for every thing that pertains to the Nelson clocks and Howard miller ,
When we get that compiled we will be that much closer to getting the book underway,
I would love to have your entire collection photographed cause from what you say you must have some collection going.
I only have 20 original Howard Millers, and I am thinking there must be at least over 125 different styles of clocks from the 50 to the late 70s

sunflower clock
My wife and I went to an auction in a small rural town in Pennsylvania. This is a small coal town in central PA. Not by any means a hot bed of mid-century treasures. After checking the local auction listings I found an auction that had a vintage sunflower clock coming up at this weekly auction. There was not any other modern treasures other then a pair of "Sears" type "Danish American" chairs. My wife and I are not financially wealthy. We have worked hard and searched all over to "thrift" our mid-century treasures. After spending the next few days trying to find what a vintage sunflower clock retails for and looking at the price of a new one I was ready for this auction. When we got to the auction I thoroughly inspected the clock. The second hand was missing, but I was not sure if they always had one or not. The minute hand had a very slight bend in it. The wood was in very good shape, with no splits and it had a beautiful patina. A local mid-century picker was there who at this point wants to kick my a**, from some past events concerning mid-century furniture. (never in my life did I think someone might want to beat me up because of furniture) The biding started very low and shot up fast. There was a pause in the biding. I was in at the top of my limit. $550.00! This is a great deal of money for me! I had beat my arch nemesis! This clock was about to be mine. Then from the back of the auction house and a phone bidder I did not even notice went to war. The phone bidder lost to the man in the back. The final price--- $ 1500.00 ! The people were amazed. They had no idea why that clock went for so much money. They nervously clapped. The old man standing beside me asked " what is that clock made of?" I said "wood". He looked at me and said, " it is not even a grandfather clock." The only reason I really went was to make sure someone did not get that clock for $100 or cheaper. I did end up with a vintage LED watch that still works for five dollars. It is all fun!!!!

bootsymod That is a ...
bootsymod
That is a good attitude to take other wise
you will be filled with rage, go get you nice vitra one on ebay for around 450.00 it will make you just as happy in the end,

there is a sun flower on ...
there is a sun flower on ebay from Vitra you should get it for around 400 several have gone for that lately they are nice, and retail for around 950.

Nelson clocks offering
We could produce the few Nelson clocks like eyeclock, sunburst clock, ball clock etc.

Should you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to let me know.

Found another one
in the September 1958 copy of INTERIORS:

"fans out flat spokes of walnut ot grained birch from a central brass disk for a new wall clock designed by George Nelson. Multicolored metal hands point to porcelain bead hour markers. measuring 14 inches in diameter, it is available with electric plug or eight day wind mechanism to retail at about $25"

Beautiful clock!

Lucifer...that is what is
so amazing about the Nelson clocks.

There's so bloody many varieties! Sure, some are kinda weird looking, but lots of them are just plain elegant. Most of the table models and about 1/3 to 1/2 of the wall clocks are among the most beautifully designed, popularly priced decorating items of the 1950's/1960's.

It's the sheer number and the fact that no publisher is interesting in putting together a book about 'em is what intrigues me so much.

Harper clocks
Got these 3 cool pictures from an Irving Harper article.

I've seen a couple of the ceramic table clocks before and the convex glass table clock, but not the other one!

Enter the den of the beast
In terms of a book, has anyone tried contacting Vitra? Seems like they'd have the resources, the know-how, the market, and the incentive to put out a book. Hell, I bet if they did the research they could find 8-10 more clocks to produce and sell. Like that lovely one Barry posted above :)

Incidentally - I was playing around with an inflation calculator for the Eames/luxury thread and I punched in some vintage clock prices

Eye Clock: $50/1964 - $340 today
Ball Clock: $30/1964 - $204 today
Star Clock: $60/1964 - $408 today

Funny, not too much difference between then and now.

Lloyd, you're back?
There's some clocks here for your comment.....

Oh yea, I got the yellow asterik today and I'm going to have a bit of difficulty finding the exact same mustard color to touch up the yellow. I don't want to repaint it....just touch it up.

The motor DOES need replacing...but that's easy!

Hey, hipsters
Is this be a Nelson associates design? It be got da Nelson hands, you'all.

I am getting the biggest ...
I am getting the biggest kick out of seeing these clocks on ebay that the sellers are putting up for 500.00 on buy it now
I love to see folks make money as my real business is the oil and gas business, and we are doing very well thank you very much, but why would any one put the price on this clock that brings really no more than 250.00 tops on ebay, at 500.00.
At the Palm Springs show where every thing is the highest . cause of big buyers these clocks were selling for 300.00 and if you talk nice to the guy who owned the booth he would have let you have for $250.00
someone please tell me what gives with ebay people cause i am getting sick and tired of them, and thinking just cause you find a old Howard miller clock at a flee market or junk store,
that is your ticket to total retirement and a happy life . or the equivalent of hitting a home run,
what a joke.
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yes that clock is a...
yes that clock is a Howard Miller clock from the 60s
I saw one at the clock shop last month just like it
and took a look at it,
It says Howard miller
I doubt that George Nelson had one thing to do with that clock.
I bet Miller took it upon themselves to add the the hands. personal opinon I bet Nelson hated those type of clocks just not his style, but the hands are,

does any one bid on cloc...
does any one bid on clocks on ebay when they see
that it is from an auction house ?
I do not, I hate to see them get that 20 percent buyers premium, and also never know when to bid,
I wish they would not list, but not my call,.

LRF...as regards the auction houses
I've looked at 'em, but they annoy the heck out of me. Anyone who sells on eBay is expected to provide detailed information about the item, its condition, does it work (if mechanical), etc.

Those "Live Auction" auction houses apparently do not feel that need. 99% of the live auction listings I've seen are horrible for information. Big deal, they provide a photograph! (They say next to nothing about the item but they make sure that you clearly see that buyer's premium.)

Another thing they say next to nothing about is how the item would be shipped. (I have visions of these auction houses having minimum-wage kids who hardly speak English with sledge hammers in their hands ready to break apart any item not removed from their premises within the expected time frame!!!! just kidding).

Bottom line, I could need to have something REALLY bad to go through all of that hassle to

1) email them ahead for essential information that they haven't bothered to provide up front,

2) pay the rip-off buyer's premium (can be up to 30%), and

3) swiftly figure out how the heck to get the item packed and removed from their premises.

Way too drama for little ol' me to endure!

Nice clock, LRF
The other one is split at the top, so I'd pass on it.

By the way, does anyone know how available these Howard Miller clocks were in the UK and Europe back then?

Were they primarily a US phenom?

speaking of the clock that ...
speaking of the clock that i bought
i was told at the Palm Springs show that this clock
was somewhat unusual cause Umanoff did not add the 1 to the 10 creating a 0
as for the splits in the wood very characteristic of this type of wood, one other clock that i bought has this same kinda of split, after 40 years with extream heat and cold this is what happens with wood,
.... all the way down to our little clocks...