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21-Oct-08 |
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Classics you dislike
Everyone has a classic or two they just do not like, no matter that the general public holds them so highly. What's yours?
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posted by whitespike
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21-Oct-08 |
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For one
Wassily chair.
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posted by woodywood
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21-Oct-08 |
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most of stark's stuff...
most of stark's stuff (except the ghost chairs). like that lemon squeezer - omg.
+ graves teapot by alessi
+ Eileen Gray's "thing":
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posted by claus
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21-Oct-08 |
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Anything by Panton.
Anything by Panton.
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posted by Lunchbox
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21-Oct-08 |
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don't you like color...
don't you like colors lunchbox?
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posted by claus
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21-Oct-08 |
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claus?
Classics?
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posted by woodywood
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21-Oct-08 |
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ok, the gray chair is not...
ok, the gray chair is not actually a classic, i just saw it at the local vitra/knoll dealer today and am still shocked.
but the teapot could be called a (postmodern) classic. it's well known even among non-addicts, i know quite some people who proudly own or want one and recognize it as a classic piece of design.
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posted by claus
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21-Oct-08 |
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I really can't stand...
I really can't stand Panton's Heart chair or Cone chair.
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posted by whitespike
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21-Oct-08 |
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Really can't abide
I really can't abide Warren Platner's chairs. The tables I like ok, but the chairs are just so....fussy.
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posted by LuciferSum
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21-Oct-08 |
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Haha. I love Platner's...
Haha. I love Platner's chairs ... I want a pair of high back lounges in white leather with brass frames...
No, that's fussy.
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posted by whitespike
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21-Oct-08 |
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claus and woodywood
Classic can be a rather subjective notion, don't you think? I think the Nonconformist chair is a classic. It is functional, beautiful, unique, provoking, challenging, and timeless. It is one of my favourite chairs, although I prefer it in fabric (Picture 1).
I actually spent some time trying to come up with a real classic that I dislike, and I couldn't. Not all are beautiful, but most of them have something to say or question, which is interesting. And it is hard to dislike something interesting. I am sure there are many, but my mind is blank at the moment.
However, there is a more modern classic that I dislike: the Aeron chair. It may be very comfortable and ergonomic, but it is not beautiful or interesting in any way whatsoever. (Picture 2).
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posted by Gustaf
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21-Oct-08 |
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Sol Bloom's
Catch All. Too messy no matter what you put in it. Just the name makes me cringe--reminds me of Aunt Edith's pocketbook.
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posted by Riki
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21-Oct-08 |
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Platner
all of it...blech!
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posted by Olive
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22-Oct-08 |
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Eames fiberglass chairs. ...
Eames fiberglass chairs. While there are rare moments when my eyes enjoy following the curves of the chairs, I generally loathe them.
In agreement with Gustaf...the Aeron chair isn't great to look at. Have you any of you seen/used the new Embody chair (link below)?
http://hermanmiller.com/CDA/SSA/Product/0,,a10-c440-p271,00l...
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posted by WoofWoof
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22-Oct-08 |
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Dittos on the Panton Cone and Heart...
The Relaxer Lounge has got to be the most difficult chair to get out of I've ever sat in. And wasn't even comfortable to boot. What a sham, that fellow.
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posted by Lunchbox
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22-Oct-08 |
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I generally like most of the acknowledged classics
but I'm not crazy about chair with delicate looking splayed legs.
As far Nelson, Eames, Platner, Richard Schultz, Florence Knoll, Lewis Butler, Eero Saarinen, Alexander Girard, all of it's great.
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posted by barrympls
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22-Oct-08 |
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The four-legged version of...
The four-legged version of Arne Jacobsen's Ant chair. I just can't ... I ... I can't freakin' stand it! No wonder Fritz Hansen didn't dare to put in into production until after Arne's death. Seeing it in white or beech veneer only makes it worse yet.
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posted by M_Andersen
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22-Oct-08 |
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All the Panton cone chair variations are hideous. Hideous!
How'd those chairs manage to reach "classic" status, anyway? Here's another Panton clunker-- the less known "C1" (first image).
Of course, no list like this would be complete without a mention of the ghastly Memphis.
The 1980's were the nadir for design. Ooof.
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posted by william-holden-caulfield
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22-Oct-08 |
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Panton Heart and Bartoli 4875 Kartell Chair
I like the panton cone chair, BUT the heart version of it is just way to clunky and kitsch looking. The Bartoli chair just seems way to plain and seeing the year it was designed, it was just a takeoff of Colombo's Universale and not as comfortable either.
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posted by sirlampsalot
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22-Oct-08 |
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There is a particular
penis shaped vase that keeps popping up at auction at Wright, flesh tone color and all. Total barf. I can't remember the name of the designer, but if you follow the auctions I'm sure a few of you know what vase I'm talking about.
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posted by the_beloved
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22-Oct-08 |
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Ah here it is
Ettore Sottsass
Nothing says 80's like a big fake dink with a flower coming out of it.
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posted by the_beloved
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22-Oct-08 |
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Platners 1966 wire tables are classic,esp in bronze finish,esp small side table...the wire chairs in same series: UCK.Pantons stuff has its place,little of it what I call classic.
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posted by azurechicken
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22-Oct-08 |
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!!!
The big fake dink vase, combined with your description, made me spit out my coffee.
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posted by william-holden-caulfield
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22-Oct-08 |
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Platners 66 line has been in...
Platners 66 line has been in constant production, now thats quite a feat.Dink vase is amusing...needs a spray of white flowers to complete the look.
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posted by azurechicken
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22-Oct-08 |
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White Baby's Breath...
magnifico!
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posted by william-holden-caulfield
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22-Oct-08 |
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eileen gray's chair
eileen gray's chair, except the adjustive table
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posted by old jack
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23-Oct-08 |
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Non conformist chair - for...
Non conformist chair - for sure.
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posted by Turbo11
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23-Oct-08 |
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Don't know if I loathe it
But I sure would never own the Wassily chair. Sooo uncomfortable to me.
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posted by LuciferSum
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23-Oct-08 |
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Dislike
Loathe may be a bit strong... but certainly dislike. It just looks like a mess to me.
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posted by woodywood
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23-Oct-08 |
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fear and loathing in modern classics?
the wassily sure doesn't offer many sitting positions. and it's a visual disorder, too many tubes and leather stripes...
edit: google just gave me this pic. shows how easily a wassily can be fixed
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posted by claus
edited on 23-Oct-08 07:32 PM [edit]
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23-Oct-08 |
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Don't know if the pink dink...
Don't know if the pink dink is a classic :)
1. Paul Mccobb Planner dining chairs. These are just too plain for my tastes. There really isn't anything interesting about them to me.
2. Aarnio ball chair. This chair is just too much. It's far too big visually and it makes too much of a statement ... and not elegantly. But then again, I tend to dislike the pop stuff.
3. Corbu LC1. This one is uncomfortable to a fault.
4. Pierre Paulin Ribbon chair. Paulin is one of the few pop designers I like. There's usually something very pleasing about his forms. This chair is UGLY though. Just plain ugly.
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posted by whitespike
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23-Oct-08 |
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Thanks Whitespike
I knew there was one other chair floating in the back of my head that I disliked - Paulin's Tongue chair. Everything about it - from the form to the name - just makes my skin crawl.
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posted by LuciferSum
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23-Oct-08 |
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I do love this ad for the...
I do love this ad for the tongue chair though :)
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posted by whitespike
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23-Oct-08 |
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Mmmm tongue.
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posted by woodywood
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23-Oct-08 |
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98% of anything with the...
98% of anything with the word Danish associated with it.
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posted by Killian
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24-Oct-08 |
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I think the Wassily chair is size dependent
Everyone in my family that sits in my wassily chairs finds them "surprisingly comfortable". I am 6ft(180cm) tall, so's my hubby, the shortest one in the family is my mum who's 5'10" (177cm). I've a good friend who is only 5ft and she really hates sitting in these chairs. They hit all the worng places on her, whereas they seem to hit the right spots on a taller person. The lower strap of the seatback is actually nice when my lower back is giving me fits. Very supportive.
And to comment on the too many tubes, lines, whatever that some one posted... When you see the chair in a space, it's really more of what is not there that is noticed. They have a surprisingly light appearance when you can see the floor, rugs, etc through them. All in all I like them, but will probably sell them when I move to New Mexico. They were my first big modernist purchase and I've moved on to a softer look now.
And speaking of visually busy...that's what I hate about the Platner pieces, all that wire, so hostile and distracting. Looks like a cage and I am too claustrophobic to enjoy the idea of furniture that entraps.
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posted by Olive
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24-Oct-08 |
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Regarding the Wassily
I have a good quality knockoff - with black crinkle finish instead of shiny chrome, but when I sit in it, I notice that the way the leather straps are made on the back, it does not give support to my lower back.
I'm 5'10", so I am the size that the chair was designed for, I think.
I only paid $200.00 for it, so I'm not too concerned that it's not too comfortable.
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posted by barrympls
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24-Oct-08 |
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What is that 80s looking...
What is that 80s looking armchair upholstered in red, blue and yellow? It has these round "ears" on top ... kind of Mickey Mouse-esque ears. They looks to be movable? I hate that thing .... ring a bell?
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posted by whitespike
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24-Oct-08 |
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it's the Wink chair by Toshiyuki Kita (Cassina, 1980)
You could start a new thread for hateable, classic 80s designs...
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posted by claus
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24-Oct-08 |
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Ugh. That's it. God, it sucks...
Ugh. That's it. God, it sucks. Wasn't there a less-loungy version ... an armchair?
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posted by whitespike
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24-Oct-08 |
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I only know this one. it's...
I only know this one. it's convertible though. Clever mechanism, but it doesnt't counterbalance the aesthetics of this one. How odd that it's still in production...
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posted by claus
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24-Oct-08 |
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Oh, no kidding. I guess that...
Oh, no kidding. I guess that is a neat function, but couldn't the function be executed with taste? Boy this thing looked messed up.
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posted by whitespike
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24-Oct-08 |
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where do I start?
I will...
where do I start?
I will say the tulip chairs with fully upholstered seats are an improvement. But I still don't like them.
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posted by Heath
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24-Oct-08 |
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Certainly not everyone loves the Saarinen tulip collection
but there's no denying it's importance.
There's really two kinds of 'classics one dislikes' - designs that you think are poorly done or too derivative vs. classics that are nicely done but not to your own taste.
A lot of people are not too keen on Aalto's furniture because he always used bend birch-colored plywood and to some, it's not refined enough. I like it, but I understand why some do not.
But, if I were teaching a course on 20th Century modern iconic furniture, I would have no trouble keeping my own personal tastes out of the curiculum.
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posted by barrympls
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24-Oct-08 |
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wow
didn't expect the tulip series to show up in this post! it has one of the most pleasing shapes.
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posted by whitespike
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24-Oct-08 |
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the Tulip chairs (I do like t...
the Tulip chairs (I do like the tables) seem too young and full of their own glamour for my tastes.
The armed chair especially I do not like, the flow of material in the seat is too sharp and raw compared to the base, it is smoothed considerably in the fully upholstered versions.
They are a bugger to move around too.
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posted by Heath
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24-Oct-08 |
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Hmmm...Noguchi table & Finn...
Hmmm...Noguchi table & Finn Juhl's Pelican chair come to mind first, Bruno Matthson's chairs (perhaps with the exception of his 'Jetson' chairs in black leather)...also never been a big fan of Aalto furniture (I like his lamps, though), but I admit some of his original/old pieces look great, especially in the right environment so he probably doesn't belong to my list...then again, I like Wassilys, Tulip arm chairs and Danish stuff in general - all mentioned here - so what do I know...;)
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posted by J.J.
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24-Oct-08 |
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Which Noguchi table are you...
Which Noguchi table are you referring to? Dining? Coffee?
I love Bruno Matthson's chairs, with the exception of the Jetson chair. So it's just the opposite. The Jetson chair is just too, um, Jetsony.
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posted by whitespike
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25-Oct-08 |
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Noguchi...
...coffee table with a glass top & black base...
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posted by J.J.
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25-Oct-08 |
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As for Matthson, I'd be hard...
As for Matthson, I'd be hard pressed to find a chair with a classic status I'd dislike more than his 'Pernilla' (this side of the Memphis stuff, of course)...
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posted by J.J.
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25-Oct-08 |
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I used to have a Jetson chair...
I used to have a Jetson chair, its the most comfortable I've ever sat in. I can understand the dislike of its looks though.
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posted by Heath
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