26-Oct-08
What about wall paint?
I'm thinking of painting my walls next summer, but not sure how to proceed. I would like to proceed in the "modern manner"! I have somewhat different styles in different rooms, but all the furniture is modern stuff. ie. Kitchen is mid-century modern (ie. 50's wood tones), bedroom 70's mid-century modern (again earth tones, mucho beiges/browns & white), living room is more like minimalist Bauhaus post-modern (mostly colder black/white/grey here). In which case, I read that colors are to be kept neutral in this kind of modern environment. Should this mean keeping the walls just plain white?

I'm not sure which direction to go in, but I know I want something that goes with my modernish decor; whether that means using color or just repainting all the walls plain white. I don't just want to use color (non-white) for the sake of using color. I'm open to any and all wall paint ideas. What is the norm for modern decors as far as wall paint is concerned, or is there one?

posted by fotzepolitic
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26-Oct-08
I'd keep 'em
neutral.
posted by barrympls
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26-Oct-08
All my walls
are painted a light tan color and the trim, (where there is trim) is white. The color comes from art objects, pillows, paintings, etc.
posted by Riki
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26-Oct-08
It does depend on your furniture and furnishings.....
For example, I have a red, orange and pink(!) fabric sofa and a blue and grey fabric on my Grasshopper chair and ottoman, as well as the Zebra fabric on my Aalto tank chair, so the walls stay white and carpet grey. I can't introduce and serious color to the wall, can I?

If your stuff is all neutral, then, by all means, add some color to your walls, but remember that too much wall color will stiffle and color you want to introduce to your furniture.

I'd rather keep the walls neutral and either furnish with color or get some cool colorful artwork!
posted by barrympls
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26-Oct-08
I've used lots of color.
But i have seen neutral walls look fabulous.
I also have big bold vintage fabrics on some walls.
(The original owner was a textiles designer)
Maybe it is just personal taste though some houses just
dictate a need for color?
I'll see if i can find visual examples.
posted by rockland
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26-Oct-08
White walls = Dorm/Starter Apartment
plain white walls always equal a dorm room or a starter apartment to me. You can do a neutral that can be calm & restrained and still not-white.

I think the Bauhaus room especially should have color on the walls. Otherwise it ends up being a little too severe and like the lobby of a bank. Putting a color on the walls will immediately add a cozy, human touch to things.

The kitchen can handle brighter colors - yellows or blues. The bedroom could probably handle something a little cooler to contrast the warm wood tones. Primaries also can be brought in with soft furnishings, curtains, rugs, etc.

And worse case scenario - you paint something a bright color, hate it, and paint over it. A little work, but then at least you know what it looks like with a strong color.
posted by LuciferSum
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27-Oct-08
go neutral
There is a wide range of neutral colors that can be very striking. Taupes and warm grays are nice, as are deep ivories and creams. Be sure to consider the natural light that your home gets as well as whatever artificial light you have.

Our main living area is a deep brownish taupe which looks really great with our framed art (mostly matted in various whites) and rosewood and oak furniture. The family room is papered in a wheat-colored paperweave grasscloth that is lighter and warmer but still very neutral.

I painted the upstair hallway a burnt orange which I love. I have some original comic strips by my brother hanging on the walls. It's just the right amount of the right color in the right place.



posted by spanky*
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27-Oct-08
Thanks for the ideas guys,...
Thanks for the ideas guys, but I'm getting a lot of conflicting ideas, so still not sure which is the best way to go to maintain a "modern" approach to the color of the walls. Perhaps if I explain my goal, it'd help. In the neutral grey/white/black Bauhaus living room, I'd rather go for "style" than "warmness". My furniture makes a (modernist) statement, so I want my walls to make a similar statement, for the sake of consistency! Even if that means keeping them plain white. Consistency is what I'm after. Whatever color(s) is "normally" used for a neutral minimialist Bauhaus environment, that's the color I want! Some of the ideas I've bounced around for the Bauhaus room are: painting everything just a fresh coat of white, using slightly different shades of white 'artistically' (ex. a big white squiggle with a roller, over the background of white), painting two walls light grey, other two white.

For the MCM rooms (bedroom / kitchen), well the furniture is a bit different. The bedroom for example is just chock full of beiges, woods, white and tans (even the rug). The only color, really, are the paintings on the walls. As IKEA says, "beige is boring". So wouldn't neutral (which I assume means white or beige) just emphasize the lack of color in the room? Question in my mind is, is it better to keep the walls neutral here, in order to stay with "mid-century modern" design constraints, or add color (ie. green) as a contrast to the furnishings? I was even thinking orange for the kitchen, but I'm just not sure if this is in keeping with the modern style I wish to maintain throughout the apt. I tried to make my bathroom look like a hotel bathroom, so I really don't mind if it a room reminds people of a museum or bank! I've got a museum/banker type clock in the Bauhaus room, so why not.

Spanky: That burnt orange is a beautiful color. I could see that in the kitchen.



posted by fotzepolitic
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27-Oct-08
There
are many, many different whites you could start with
http://www.farrow-ball.com/productlist.aspx?cid=PC&languageB...
posted by robert1960
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27-Oct-08
Figure out first what your goal is.
I guess I'm a little confused as to what you wish to accomplish. Is it your goal to have the house be a museum? There are lots of facets of modernism and it sounds like you haven't figured out exactly what you want to do.

I get that you have furniture that is important to you - but why does it need to be a 'statement'? And what is that statement? And if you're trying to be true to the Bauhaus aesthetic, why would you want to gum it up with a funny squiggle on the wall?

Just because BH furniture is a little severe doesn't mean that the entire aesthetic needs to be. One only has to look at the color work of Annie Albers or Gunta Stotzl (sp?) to see that vibrancy and color played important roles. Little gems like the Farnsworth house use wood tone as a color unto itself, and the Glass house utilizes the natural world surrounding it.


Below are some photos of an LC Building in Berlin, a link to LC's Villa La Roche, and a very clear example of bad Bauhaus furniture arrangement.






http://flickr.com/photos/fotofacade/393084056/
posted by LuciferSum
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27-Oct-08
about "the bauhaus-room"...
When Klee and Kandinsky moved into the Master's Houses in Dessau they did not like the whiteness of the spaces designed by Gropius, so they decided to paint walls, details or ceilings in over 170 colors. There's no evidence Gropius hated them for that.
So if you like to make a statement, make one of your own. Just white walls and black classics will make your room look like a law-firm's lobby... (like Lucifersum's pic above)

Also remember they teached chromatics at the Bauhaus for a reason.





http://www.meisterhaeuser.de/en/bildarchiv.html
posted by claus
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27-Oct-08
LS....
if all I was chrome furniture with all black leather, I'd introduce more color than is in that nice picture.....

Maybe get a darker colored dog.
posted by barrympls
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27-Oct-08
LOL
I love that picture because it shows just how WRONG you can go with really GOOD pieces. And, apparently, a Volkswagon.
posted by LuciferSum
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28-Oct-08
Orange you glad I didn't say banana
posted by woodywood
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28-Oct-08
Using color...you risk being disappointed if you don't do your homework
I have always been of the opinion that your space itself should dictate your color selection process. The light coming in a room affects the color in the room as does neighboring rooms, the flooring and trim work and the furnishings themselves. Saying 'just paint it neutral' or 'paint it white' are overly simplified answers that can lead you to making choices that you end up not liking one little bit. To make a selection that you will be happy with follow the methodology of a color specialist, which goes like this...

First determine the direction of the light coming into the room, It is North, South, East or West? Second, does the daylight actually matter? If you use the room primarily at night the tone of the daylight is less important. But the type of light bulbs you will is IS important. From those points you can proceed to the next phase which is to determine the mood of the room. After that comes what activities will happen in the room.

Notice that we've not even mentioned color yet? I've written about this a lot on DA...search on color and you should find threads about thise where I explain color selection. If you can find it let me know and I can email you information directly.

posted by Olive
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29-Oct-08
indeed
Indeed Olive,

Light is very important. Without light : no colour.
What I always do is : put a sample (on a piece of cardboard or paper) on the wall and leave it there throughout the day and evening.
That way you can see how the colour changes with the light.
Sometimes you can be really surprised how colourtone can change.

Anyway : don't be afraid of colour!
posted by Erik.H
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29-Oct-08
Try before you buy
Hello!

Been reading but not posting much. Olive's advice would have been really handy when I was painting rooms!

Farrow and Ball is excellent for paints. They do tester size pots and are happy to post those to you.

Get all the colours you think you might like, smear them in large-ish patches on your walls. Then just sit around over the course of a week and see which ones grow on you and which ones are an absolute no-no.

Someone thought I had a serious case of mould in my flat when I first did that.
posted by GMT
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30-Oct-08
Thanks for the additional...
Thanks for the additional responses. It's been educational for me, allowing me to expand my thoughts on the subject. I asked about wall paint color because being no expert on modern interior design, I thought that there was a certain "post-modern aesthetic" that I should follow; at least for my post-modern room (the others are done in a warmer mid century modern). You know, like you shouldn't wear white after Labour Day, so maybe, you're not supposed to paint your walls in color (other than white), if you have a post-modern clinical room, as shown in the above picture with the Le Corbusiers everywhere. (I dont have Le Corbusiers in this room, but I have the same Kandinsky chair in that photo, and the sofa is pretty close to the LC). It didn't occur to me that the "paint squiggle" idea I threw out, for example, does not follow the post-modern or Bauhaus aesthetic, because of the curves.

I had seen documentaries on the Bauhaus institute, but never saw rooms with that kind of color - or perhaps I didn't notice that. So I guess this means that there are no hard and fast rules for what color the walls should be, whether we're talking about post-modern rooms or mid-century modern ones. In my post-modern room, my intention was to add color by way of accents, like paintings, rather than large spaces like walls. I was afraid that colored walls would upset the austere, minimalist environment I was trying to create with the furniture, and look amateurish. Otherwise it might end up looking like post-modern furniture in a victorian house - or someone just didn't bother to paint the walls when they moved in.

Olive: All that stuff about where the sun is coming in and the activities of the room dicating its color mood well.... the thing is, I don't really use the post-modern Bauhaus room, whether day or night. Only on a rare occasion when I want to watch a movie. But its the first room you see when someone enters, so I don't mind if it reminds one of a museum. I like modern art museums! That's why I wanted the (modern Bauhaus type) furniture to dictate what the walls and entire room looks like. Since the furniture is minimalist, it seemed to make the most sense that the walls be minimalist. Even if I were to color the walls in this room, I'm not sure what would work with the furniture, since its kind of sort of like the LC picture above - a room where the furniture, and even some paintings, is mostly absent of colors (other than black, grey, white, and some red).





posted by fotzepolitic
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30-Oct-08
Well, then...
if it's more of an art piece than a room for living in, to paraphrase LeCorbu, then by all means paint it what ever color you'd like. But I wouldn't necessarily opt for white, or grey walls. I'd say pick a piece of art that you particularly like in that room and find a color within it to pull onto the walls.

I'd pick something that will balance all the high contrast black/white/grey/red that you have going on. Flatted, or dulled colors, which are ones which are greyed down and softened from their primary hue would be good options to give the room a bit of balance. I'd head for the warm tones versus the cools, and pick a pale, faded tone of whatever you end up with.

Here's some ideas to chew on:

Ochres, really look good with black and red
Pumpkin tones, very dulled to avoid looking like Halloween
Greyed yellow-olive tones, like the color of olive leaves
Petrol or steel blues, yeah this one's a cool tone

Good luck...
posted by Olive
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30-Oct-08
Greeat ideas, thanks. I'm...
Greeat ideas, thanks. I'm recording all contributions here for future reference. Olive, aside from the colors you mentioned, all of which I like, what do you think about that burnt yellow in the picture above that WoodyWood posted (for my Bauhaus post-modern room)?
posted by fotzepolitic
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30-Oct-08
That's the problem with online color selection
On my computer I see a fairly strong burned orange in that photo. Not a pale or flatted color at all!
posted by Olive
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31-Oct-08
Are we talking about the...
Are we talking about the same pic? I'm referring to the burnt yellow wall with the white chair and black clock, not the burnt orange wall with the framed comic book.
posted by fotzepolitic
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31-Oct-08
FYI
The name of that paint color is Behr Amber Glow. It is a warm orange with a slight brownish tint. The finish is Flat Enamel.
posted by woodywood
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31-Oct-08
Yep, same pix
I love the color that I see on the scren, but it is a fairly strong color, not at all what I was talking about. Or at least that's what I'm seeing...wysiwyg isn't true on every computer!
posted by Olive
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