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10-Oct-09 |
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Which Leather to Choose for My Herman Miller Eames Lounge Chair and Ottoman
Hi all,
I have an opportunity to purchase a new Herman Miller Eames Lounge Chair and Ottoman at a price that I can't pass up, but I am not sure what leather I should choose.
From what I can tell there is the Herman Miller Leather which is on the smooth side,however I think I prefer a slightly more textured leather then the HM.
While browsing in Design Beyond Reach I was told that HM is changing the HM leather to Spinneybeck because they did not like how the previous leather was wearing. I am not sure what leather my price includes but certainly can upgrade if desired.
Has anyone have any info on HM changing the base leather? Should I not even worry about it and be happy with the HM leather or consider an upgrade?
Either way I will be making the decision on Monday. It's a toss up between walnut and Santos Palisander in an espresso color leather - I am leaning toward the Plaisander.
btw I am really excited!
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That would have been good to...
That would have been good to know a couple of weeks ago. I may try and call HM on Monday and ask if they are in the process of phasing out an older leather for a newer one, and if so why.
I will also have a change to see the swatches on Monday. I was just wondering what people thought or know about the quality of the HM leather over the upgrades.
DPN
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10-Oct-09 |
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Not sure I can help too much...
Not sure I can help too much but I have a 4 year old chair that I bought second hand.
I was very suprised how soft and smooth the leather is on these new chairs, they are beautiful to the touch, but the thickness of the hide does seem very thin!
My only experience of these chairs before this was with vintage chairs which seem to have a much thicker hide but less comfortable.
Its to early to say how well this leather on the new chair will wear but it is very sumptuous.
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10-Oct-09 |
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Herman Miller Leather
According to DWR: Herman Miller is discontinuing the base grade leather for the Eames Lounge and moving up a notch to a slightly different leather that they make.
Design Within Reach is opting out of Herman Miller's leather all together, and is using Spinneybeck leather instead. Both the Spinneybeck and the new Herman Miller leather are going to be the same price I'm told. DWR's reasoning is that the HM leather gets shiny and plastic looking. I think it has more to do with them getting an exclusive style of leather...but thats just me.
I got my chair with the HM leather, which is good. But I used Spinneybeck to reupholster an Eames Aluminum group and it's awesome. At this point I'm not going to spend 2k to change my cushions, but if both options were available to me I think I would bump up to the Spinneybeck.
Edit: Just reread and saw your comment about the texture. The Spinneybeck leather is much more textured than the HM stuff. HM is very smooth.
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LuciferSum (USA)
edited on 10-Oct-09 10:46 PM [edit]
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12-Oct-09 |
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Working for DWR, I wasn't an...
Working for DWR, I wasn't an expert on leather, but I can tell you this. HM dropping that base HM leather is a good thing. We had one in ivory and black in our studio and the leather did get all shiny and like plastic, and we took good care of it (cleaning products, leather conditioner, etc). I realize we had high traffic, but both chairs had bad signs of wear after 2 years(some major cracking). I would always try to get my clients to use a Spinneybeck or Edelman. So... if you can afford it, certainly go with the Spinneybeck. Hope this helped in some manner.
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13-Oct-09 |
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I picked up the samples of...
I picked up the samples of the Edelman leather today and like the Dream Cow and All Grain texture as much as the Spinneybeck I saw at DWR. However I don't see the benefit of getting into the All Grain at twice the cost of Dream Cow.
The shinny wear of the HM leather is a definite turn off and I will certainly be upgrading. My guy is bringing in a few other samples for me to see including the leather that HM is moving forward with. I can not remember the name.
As for the laminate finish it's a toss up between the Palisander and Walnut. Well not a toss up really, I want the Palisander. But I have to be careful b/c the discount I am getting may very quickly be eaten up by the upgrades I am considering.
Thanks for the input everyone. I am excited about this chair and appreciate the info.
Don
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29-Apr-10 |
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Leather Choice
I am also currently looking at the leather choices. The one offered at DWR is a corrected leather from Spinnybeck made in the USA. While the Herman Miller type 9 leather is from Austria and is a full grain leather.
Based on that info, isn't the one offered at DWR more of an inferior leather based on that the leather is corrected and not top of the line full grain?
Anyone had any experience on the new base leather that is offered by Herman Miller, the type 9, is it still shinny with heavy use?
Mike
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29-Apr-10 |
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30-Apr-10 |
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So what's wrong with shiny leather?
Shiny leather was the norm for most of the production life of these chairs. To my sensibilities, the matte leather of the newer chairs never looks or feels right. You can't slump correctly into them because the leather grips your pants.
Save that floppy glove leather for gloves.
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30-Apr-10 |
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I think shiny leather is...
I think shiny leather is more of a personal taste. What I am more concerned about is the quality in the base leathers.
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10-Jun-10 |
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DPN, which leather did you end up choosing?
I'm shopping around for an Eames Aluminum Group Executive Chair and I don't know which leather to choose.
DPN, which leather did you end up choosing?
Also, can anyone pls answer, which leather is the "softest" and "smoothest":
1) Herman Miller stock leather, Category 9 - #2109
2) DWR's Spinneybeck Vicenza leather
3) Edelman Dream Cow leather (VC18)
Tx.
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14-Aug-12 |
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leather options for Eames Lounge Chair
Hi Everyone,
I'm about to get an Eames Lounge Chair but don't have a showroom nearby with the different sorts of leather options. I'm thinking mostly about the black MCL and the Edelman Dream Cow. Any thoughts? Having looked at some samples, they seem similar: both are full grain, analine dyed but semi-analine finish, with a similar grain. The only difference I could tell was tht the MCL felt a bit more stretchy and rubbery, whereas the Edelman, while just as soft, wasn't as stretchy. Maybe that means it will wear better over time? Has anyone seen these side by side or seen how they wear over time relative to one another? Many thanks for any feedback.
JMW
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15-Aug-12 |
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Eames leather options
I was choosing between some of these options myself, and eventually decided on Edelman's all grain leather. I am really happy with it. In comparison to both the HM standard leather and Spinnybeck's Vicenza, the Edelman leather just has a superior hand, and I believe it will wear much better.
The MCL seems like a bit of an unknown, since it has not been on offer for very long, but my only thought about it was that from the sample, it seemed a bit more vulnerable to staining and light changes, and the finish seemed a bit more matte. The Edelman leathers have a beautiful sheen to them that is just right. I would recommend Edelman based on my experience, but so much of this is personal preference, of course.
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16-Aug-12 |
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JPG: Many thanks for your...
JPG: Many thanks for your post! I'll go with the Edelman. I was leaning that way after talking with a Herman Miller rep., but this seals the deal. I agree with all your points. Glad to know it also looks good. By the way, I was interested in the oiled walnut but just can't afford it. Plus the normal walnut looks quite nice. I'll be getting black with the walnut. Any thoughts on that or the oiled walnut (though I'm almost positive I can't get it!). Thanks.
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16-Aug-12 |
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check silverstone leathers ...
check silverstone leathers they carry all kinds of Edelman leather and Steve Terry knows all about the great leathers.
I use that company all the time, you need a full hide on your chair.
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08-Oct-12 |
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edelman dream cow
I now have my Eames lounge chair in the black Edelman Dream Cow, and it's awesome. It's a bit softer than the MCL, still thick, and it's got a soft shine to it, with lots of nice grain. It's not"shiny" though and it definitely looks and smells like real leather. I haven't seen the even more expensive options, but this seems perfect to me, and I'm glad I sepnt the $500 extra, because there's no way I'll part with this leather down the road for something else; if anything I'll change the foam cushions, but that's it, because this feels like great quality and should age gracefully. This isn't to be dismissive about the cheaper option, just that, if you've got the money, it feels worth it. IT's also got enough shine that it looks like it will hold up well against spills, but, again, not the sort of plasticky shine I've seen in pictures of some old ones that makes them look like vinyl.
For the record, I have this at work and have sat for many hours straight in it. There's basically no headrest for me at 6 ft. when I sit up all the way, but then I'm working and don't need it. When I want to relax more or sleep I can just slide down a bit. It's also just hard enoug hto get out of, because it's low, that you're not tempted to check e-mails once you get in. Perfect for uninterupted reading and even writing, becasue the arm rests are the correct low height. You can tell they sat around with this for a long time working out all the angles. Also, it's nice to have a non-pivoting ottoman and pivoting chair because you can use the ottoman as leverage to switch angles without needing to put your feet down on the floor and without moving your butt. Hope this is helpful.
JW
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17-Nov-12 |
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posted by
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07-Dec-12 |
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Standard Leather on the Eames Lounge Chair
Does anyone know the quality of the standard leather used on the more recent Eames Lounge Chair (2 years old)? I know everyone raves about the Edelman, but I may be able to get standard leather one at a reasonable price. What I mean by quality is texture, grain, maintenance, patina, etc. Thanks.
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