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10-Jan-10
Random question
Why do some sellers (e.g. on eBay) have photos of their items sitting in the SNOW?!!


Seriously, WTF.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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10-Jan-10
Uh ...
furniture? I guess it could be easy to stick a vase in the snow to have a nice white background, but it's crazy.

A lot of people on ebay photograph items outside.
posted by ShawnMarie
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10-Jan-10
Yes, furniture
Here's one I just saw on CL.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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10-Jan-10
Seems
it's an International phenomena
posted by robert1960 (UK)
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10-Jan-10
Better light outside for...
Better light outside for photography. As for putting objects directly in/on the snow-that's just the usual idiot factor
posted by jesgord (USA)
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11-Jan-10
posted by robert1960 (UK)
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11-Jan-10
Wow, robert
Are those wooden legs?
posted by woodywood (USA)
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11-Jan-10
posted by robert1960 (UK)
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12-Jan-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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12-Jan-10
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universal answer (to random question)
posted by Olive (USA)
edited on 12-Jan-10 04:46 AM  [edit]
 
02-Feb-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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02-Feb-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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02-Feb-10
Ha...funny. EBay sellers...
Ha...funny. EBay sellers aren't exclusive to this approach. Visit Wright20th's home page. In the homepage slideshow, you'll see two pictures of Eames DSR's proudly standing in snow.
posted by WoofWoof (USA)
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02-Feb-10
I noticed that as well...
I certainly hope they aren't trying to auction those off too!
posted by woodywood (USA)
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06-Feb-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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06-Feb-10
woodywood
where did you get that Wegner rocker pic? I couldn't find it on ebay.
posted by glassartist (USA)
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06-Feb-10
Hmmmm
Well it ended a couple weeks ago. Same seller (802ken) as the other Wegner above.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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07-Feb-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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07-Feb-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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07-Feb-10
posted by DudeDah
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07-Feb-10
Please
Write to Mrs. Wright, right now.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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07-Feb-10
Woodywood's
last photo appears to show a chair on a white bedsheet (?), in a snow-covered environment. Best of both worlds ? The edge of the sheet -- with a slight change of "white" -- can be made out at the left side of the photo.

No one can deny that an all-white background makes an ideal contrast to the object being photographed -- can they ? A bonus is the reflected light that bathes the object on all sides.
posted by SDR (USA)
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08-Feb-10
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I am with SDR on this one.

However, I always wanted to ask: What's up with the strange choice of (the very limited) title words ?

Case in point: Just type "beautiful" in Ebay (all categories) and see what happens.. (I retrieved 4 500 ! pages full of stuff)-see also "Very", "top" etc.

I wonder which customers actually use this keyword to find anything ? Oh, I want a new thing to hang on my wall: let's just type "beautiful art" ??

i don't get it
posted by ite (BE)
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08-Feb-10
or, alternatively, if a...
or, alternatively, if a seller types in "beautiful" over a picture of a horrible lamp, will you believe it better ?

i really don't get it
posted by ite (BE)
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08-Feb-10
I understand...
And appreciate the point about lighting with an all-white background. My main issue is how a seller can let their "valued, vintage goods" (and they are promoting them as such) come in contact with snow and not expect potential buyers be perturbed and perplexed by it... especially the wooden parts, for obvious reasons.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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09-Feb-10
Heywood Wakefield
$550 starting bid....

posted by woodywood (USA)
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09-Feb-10
SDR
You wrote "No one can deny that an all-white background makes an ideal contrast to the object being photographed -- can they ?"

I think some people can deny that the white sweep is not ideal. I'd point to the iconic images of Wormley's designs as photographed in the Dunbar catalog and the beautiful pictures that one sees in many Wright auction catalogs where they chose to show pieces in striking environments over the usual white sweep.

The all-white environment certainly looks stark and "artsy", but showing an object in an environment has merit as well.

We went back-and-forth on this for when we considered how to show the pieces on our website and have done both. We weighed the austere but elegant look of the white sweep against the warmth and scale you can get by shooting furniture in an environment.

These are things that one should live with, relate to, and use. By putting them into a context that one can recognize I think that it can give a human scale to them and make them more "real". If you want to simply admire the design, maybe the white room is the way to go, but if you want to convey that these are real things that one can incorporate into their life, why not show them in the real world.

Granted, there is good photography and bad photography, and I think good design can benefit from good photography. Just like a great painting can benefit from a nice frame. That said, I think there is plenty of bad photography on eBay or other sites. Whether folks should put the things they want to sell out in the snow, I'm frankly indifferent. If they have half a brain, they would not leave them outside for long. Extreme temperature changes are just as destructive (maybe more) than the moisture in snow.

I'd hope that anyone selling something like a handsome Hans Wegner chair would have the common sense to take it outside, quickly get the photo they want, and then run back in where they wipe down any snow that was clinging to the legs. Of course, I live in an area that sees extremes in winter weather so I'm used to dealing with it. I'd be just as concerned with someone taking the same chair out to the middle of a stand of cactus to take pictures. Dry heat can be just as damaging as wet cold.
posted by Pegboard Modern (USA)
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09-Feb-10
Judging

by the condition of some of the wood objects that we see, it would appear that many people fail to recognize that wood is vulnerable to damage from moisture -- or from almost any abuse. As a furniture installer I've left the room after placing an executive desk, and returned to find an electrician standing on it to adjust a ceiling lamp -- with no protection to the wood.

Kids think dresser drawers make a neat ladder -- and adults aren't much smarter, sometimes.

I don't have coasters (or many guests), so when serving a drink I'll place it on a throw-away magazine or other handy item. Half the time, the guest will favor my worthless paper object, and return their class to the wooden surface I was trying to protect. Go figure. . .
posted by SDR (USA)
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09-Feb-10
Pegboard

I distinguish between the more informal photos you refer to, and the auction catalog, where the seller has the responsibility to show as clearly as possible (in one or at most two photographs) the object, so that the prospective bidder can assess the condition of the object. It is that sort of photo which I would want to see as well-lighted as possible -- and with no distractions.
posted by SDR (USA)
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22-Feb-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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22-Feb-10
Yikes !

Is there no end to the madness ? What are people thinking -- snow is good for furniture, or something ?

Wood -- especially finished wood -- DOESN'T LIKE WATER. If furniture needs to be wetted for any reason, it should be toweled off and thoroughly air-dried as soon as possible.
posted by SDR (USA)
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23-Feb-10
Apparently...
it's also en vogue to sell your POR-SHA this way as well...
posted by DudeDah
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23-Feb-10
If it was on top of the pile...
Then I'd be impressed.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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23-Feb-10
Ok, well how about...
A GOAT on top of SNOW on top of a FERRARI?!

Not sure what is being sold HERE...but just LOOK at the play of light and dark. The ULTIMATE in stunning contrast. Caravaggio would be SMITTEN!!
posted by DudeDah
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23-Feb-10
Tres

artistique. . .
posted by SDR (USA)
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28-Feb-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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28-Feb-10
ha....some one is having...
ha....some one is having crustaceans for dinner.
posted by WoofWoof (USA)
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08-Apr-10
Saw these at the Wright20ths...
Saw these at the Wright20ths facebook site.

posted by WoofWoof (USA)
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08-Apr-10
She sells side shells...
by the sea shore.

Don't get the last couple from Wright, those aren't nice photos. Some of the others I kinda get, those two, not so much.
posted by DudeDah
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08-Apr-10
Water
is equally unkind to steel, needless to say. Apparently sellers don't much care what they do to the furniture they're trying to get rid of. . .
posted by SDR (USA)
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08-Apr-10
Bad photos and bad weather...
What's not to get?
posted by woodywood (USA)
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06-Nov-10
Tis the season
At least there's a dolly under this one.

posted by woodywood (USA)
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30-Nov-10
It's Snowing
here too ..
posted by robert1960 (UK)
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30-Nov-10
hahaha...tis the season...
hahaha...tis the season alright.
posted by WoofWoof (USA)
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30-Nov-10

Someone bring those Brattrud's in from the cold.
posted by H.moon (UK)
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19-Dec-10
LCW
...
posted by woodywood (USA)
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19-Dec-10
.

Ouch



posted by SDR (USA)
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19-Dec-10
posted by Honus_Wenger
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25-Dec-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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25-Dec-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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30-Dec-10
A couple of George Nelson...
A couple of George Nelson chairs in the snow, currently listed

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Cane-Back-Dining-Chairs-George-Nelson2...
posted by gene
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30-Dec-10
posted by woodywood (USA)
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02-Jan-11
posted by mvalen
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02-Jan-11
A chair can grow out of snow....
A chair can grow out of snow. From what I read, Bruno Mathsson (Prestty sure it was him) got inspiration for his chairs from the impressions left from sitting in snow.
posted by WoofWoof (USA)
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02-Jan-11
nope
you are thinking of Yrjo Kukkapuro (in regards to the sitting in the snow) although i am sure most chair designers in a winter climate have thought of it once or twice in the process..
posted by tynellbuyer
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04-Jan-11
A rug, for heavens sake.
A rug, for heavens sake.


posted by jesgord (USA)
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04-Jan-11
A snowy rug...

There's nothing quite like it!
posted by woodywood (USA)
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05-Jan-11
Cleaning carpets in snow is...
Cleaning carpets in snow is the oldest trick in the housewife's book! Try it if you don't believe me. Some of my rugs got a much needed 'shower' this winter.
http://newspirit-square1.blogspot.com
posted by bundes
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06-Jan-11
I know I know...patio furnitu...
I know I know...patio furniture. They look good in the snow.

*nevermind cant link photo
posted by WoofWoof (USA)
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17-Jan-11
670, 671
Thankfully, not *in* the snow.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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25-Jan-11
Sofa
...
posted by woodywood (USA)
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25-Jan-11
The noted Irish seating designer
Paddy O'Furniture.

Thanks and good night, folks. I'm here all week.
posted by Geo. H.
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25-Jan-11
The noted Irish seating designer
Paddy O'Furniture.

Thanks and good night, folks. I'm here all week.
posted by Geo. H.
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25-Jan-11
The noted Irish seating designer
Paddy O'Furniture.

Thanks and good night, folks. I'm here all week.
posted by Geo. H.
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25-Jan-11
Knock knock
Who's there?

You said

You said who?

You said that damn joke three times.
posted by whitespike (USA)
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25-Jan-11
Jeeze, I am sorry.
Another tragic case of pilot error. My humble apologies to the Forum, the DA team, and the Eames Brothers (Charles and Ray).
posted by Geo. H.
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25-Jan-11
The Brothers Eames

Humbly accept your apology.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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26-Jan-11
Maybe these
snow-birds think they're channeling the old Dunbar furniture ads -- you know, the ones where a sofa and coffee table are photographed in a wooded glade, etc.


http://tinyurl.com/6krze5m
posted by SDR (USA)
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03-Feb-11
Getting on the bandwagon
I was thinking of putting some of our Woodard chairs on eBay.
Is this how I should photograph them to get the best results?

posted by Pegboard Modern (USA)
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03-Feb-11
Why, yes . . .

I think you're getting it !

Where do you live . . . Alabama ?
posted by SDR (USA)
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03-Feb-11
Hahaha

Just make sure you state, "snow not included".

Hope you're keeping warm and stocked up on bread and stuff!
posted by woodywood (USA)
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03-Feb-11
Wonderful, looks almost like ...
Wonderful, looks almost like two Woodard twin bed.
posted by WoofWoof (USA)
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20-Feb-11
Rock on.
...
posted by woodywood (USA)
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24-Mar-11
Knee deep
The dealer is asking $3000 for a 1960's Herman Miller LCW+CTW set. Sorry I couldn't link a picture, so you'll have to live with the dealer's choice of 'background' music, when visiting their site.

Well, I'm relieved at least this wasn't an Evans set...
http://timelinesonline.net/#vintage-seating/49
posted by alexandersforum (SE)
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24-Mar-11
Christ on a bike!
That's brutal!
posted by Lunchbox (USA)
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26-Mar-11
Wow
I've always felt that plywood was a grossly overlooked material for outdoor furniture.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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26-Mar-11
How about this
R M Schindler plywood chair. The listed price is $24,000.


http://www.1stdibs.com/furniture_item_detail.php?id=203729
posted by SDR (USA)
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18-Jan-12
Tis the season.
Ostergaard
posted by woodywood (USA)
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18-Jan-12
We had our first significant snowfall...
of the season last week and I thought about this thread.

I even considered taking a nice piece outside in the snow and taking a picture to post as a joke.



Then I came to my senses.
posted by Pegboard Modern (USA)
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31-Jan-12
Haha Pegboard
Not much snow at all over here this winter (too warm), but at least there's still snow somewhere....
posted by woodywood (USA)
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31-Jan-12
exterior shots
I don't know that it's the "white" that folks are looking for when taking pix outside. I think that their cell phone cameras take lousy interior pix, that are either too dark, or bathed in yellow or blue light. Outside, that isn't in issue. As for the snow, it's incidental. Some of us have to live with it!
There was recently posted online an ad for a teak framed daybed/settee with tufted black vinyl pad -- for free. Sitting in the snow in a small town in the boonies hours from anywhere. I cried, for many reasons.
posted by franklydiscreet
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31-Jan-12
Incidental
And a great way to ruin the wood on your valuable vintage furniture.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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31-Jan-12
Not if you whisk the stuff ou...
Not if you whisk the stuff out of there quick and dry it off.

Not that I'm advocating snow backdrops. But yeah, I think a lot of people just take pics as they unload before they put the stuff in their overstuffed garages with no lighting.

I think it's less offensive than the ones who don't bother to clear clutter away for the indoor shots. I saw one recently with a big honking ashtray nearby that was overflowing with butts. Nice.
posted by *spanky*
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31-Jan-12
The problem is...
There is no telling how long the furniture has been sitting in the snow, and whether or not it was treated properly afterward. If you recall from earlier photos in this thread, some pieces were clearly sitting in a combination of slush and salt-melted snow. Not exactly a strong selling point, if you ask me.
posted by woodywood (USA)
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31-Jan-12
You're right.
I'm the eternal optimist. And sometimes it bites me in the butt.
posted by *spanky*
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14-Feb-12
I never thought the day would come,
but today I am celebrating. At last, a UK eBay item photographed in the snow.


posted by danielmpoole
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28-Jul-12
When I toured the Herman...
When I toured the Herman Miller Design Yard, they had a silver Marshmallow Sofa in the snow. :|
posted by cseyferth
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