09-Mar-10
Eames Aluminum Lounge Chair - Looking for ANY information!!!
Hello, I picked up this chair at a yard sale and I've come to believe it's probably pretty special. My problem is, I can mostly only find the 50th anniversary chairs and I cannot find another chair like mine with no patent number on it. It is what I believe to be aluminum with vinyl or possibly leather. I'd like to know the year it was made and why mine has no patent number. The stamp is shown in the picture below. Of course I'd love to know what it's worth if anyone can help there but otherwise, I'm looking for anything I can about this chair! Thanks a lot!


posted by sinwonderland
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09-Mar-10
Did you do a search? (!!!)
Must be a dozen discussions on just the info you need...
Not only here but a quick search on google is a-plenty.

Nice chair.
posted by rockland
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09-Mar-10
To quote the Eames Office:
"Patent pending, a mark found on the earliest, first year of production examples."

You have a 1st year (1958) naugahide/vinyl version. It would be much more valuable if it was upholstered in Saran as the one shown below, but a nice find nonetheless.

See link below:



http://www.eamesoffice.com/eames-furniture-raisonne
posted by the_beloved (US/CAN)
edited on 09-Mar-10 05:49 PM  [edit]
 
09-Mar-10
The wishbone
connection is so much nicer than the recent abomination like mine.
I also find the lack of adjustment a problem.

It does look like vinyl but still a nice chair.
posted by rockland
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09-Mar-10
thanks
I had been googling and binging all over the place with every keyword I could think of... and I've found more information on this forum. Thanks a lot for the replies, I learned some! Does the Patent Pending make it more valuable? If the 50th anniversary chairs are going for $1,500 does that mean mine is more or less valuable? I'm still looking for a good antique appraiser in Atlanta.
posted by sinwonderland
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09-Mar-10
I may also note that I had...
I may also note that I had no idea who Herman Miller or Eames were when I got the chair. I liked the way it looked. It was $25 and I even tried to talk them down, I'm a thrift store kinda girl and that was expensive for me, for a chair. Finding out what I have about it so far has been really neat... it may be the most expensive thing I own! LOL
posted by sinwonderland
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12-Mar-10
Valuable
As often happens there are varying ideas of what value is. Monetarily your chair is worth a bit.

The 50th anniversary editions are recent productions - the chair currently retails for about 1500. Your chair could be worth more (or less) depending on age, quality, and of course the collector bidding on it.

The link below is to Wright20 auction house. Keep in mind as you look at the auction results that "pre-production" models are extremely rare, and therefore much more valuable than those which were mass produced.


And did anyone else besides me notice the oddly gold arms...again?
http://www.wright20.com/search/eames_aluminum/0
posted by LuciferSum (USA)
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12-Mar-10
And Rockland
You can still get the collection with the fixed aluminum antler on all the chairs. Just no tilt mechanism on them.
posted by LuciferSum (USA)
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12-Mar-10
posted by the_beloved (US/CAN)
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02-Apr-10
Beware of who you help!
Turns out that this girl "Sinwonderland," who paid $25 for her chair, put up a Craigslist ad in Atlanta to sell her chair. She says that she is "really taking a hit" by asking $3000. So, she just bought it in March for $25, used y'all to price out her chair for her, and is now trying to turn a $2975 profit out of it. She even has the audacity to use the same pictures.

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http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/atq/1671799930.html
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1958 Pre Production Herman Miller Eames Executive Lounge Chair - $3000 (Douglasville, GA)
Date: 2010-04-01, 1:17PM EDT
Reply to: sale-qzwsh-1671799930 [at] craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

I have a 1958 Pre Production Herman Miller Eames Aluminum Group Lounge Chair. If you are a vintage or mid era furniture collector, this is an awesome piece. The chair is pre production with no patent number (a prototype before the chairs were actually produced). The pre production Herman Miller chairs are valued at $7,000-$9,000 so I'm really taking a hit with $3,000 but we all know how it is. If you're interested or you'd like to make an offer, please contact me. Thanks!

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Honey, you gotta be kidding me. You should probably modify your Craigslist posting. Saying that you're "really taking a hit" is amazing. -Jessica
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/atq/1671799930.html
posted by Jessica T
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02-Apr-10
Relax, Jessica.
Anyone in the market for a pre-production chair will know the difference between it and what Sinwonderland is selling.

Breathe.
posted by fastfwd
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02-Apr-10
Who cares, good for her.

I enjoy helping people ID truly "good" finds. And likewise, people here have helped me with things I couldn't ID, and for that I am thankful.

She made an effort to research her chair before she asked for more help, which makes a difference.


posted by the_beloved (US/CAN)
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02-Apr-10
Strange

Looking back at my posts, I clearly told her "first year production", not "pre-production".

Perhaps I wasn't "used" after all!

Oh well....
posted by the_beloved (US/CAN)
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02-Apr-10
::amused::
Everything comes out in the wash anyway. I think the only thing that galled me was the "really taking a hit" verbiage. Now that's a stretch of the imagination! -Jessica
posted by Jessica T
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02-Apr-10
that chair is worth what...
that chair is worth what someone would pay for it,
No big Deal chair at all.
posted by LRF (USA)
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02-Apr-10
you're right to be irritated,
Jessica: it's the combination of her (faux) naivety followed by her (faux) sophistication, all in the service of making a buck, by exploiting lovers of furniture at either end of the process. not a capital offense, but pretty unpleasant, imo....
posted by VinnyV
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03-Apr-10
Yes, well I appreciate everyb...
Yes, well I appreciate everybody's input but I have contacted the company itself. And by taking a hit, I meant not getting what it was worth. I've done a lot of further research and I was just asking for some help before I found out more. Thanks a lot for being so 'kind'.
posted by sinwonderland
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03-Apr-10
It's nice to not get bashed. ...
It's nice to not get bashed. Why was it so damn important to everybody? Who knows what I've found out since I've posted the message? And why in the hell is someone internet stalking me from Facebook to a damn Design Forum? Ridiculous.
posted by sinwonderland
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03-Apr-10
I still don't understand what the big deal is,

but she's Facebook stalking? Please elaborate.


Suddenly this thread has become very interesting....
posted by the_beloved (US/CAN)
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03-Apr-10
Ridiculous indeed. I highly...
Ridiculous indeed. I highly doubt that anyone from this forum has started to stalk you.

There are some unfamiliar names making posts in this thread.
We don't need to bring in outside drama, we already enough. Quit the histrionics. Take it back to Facebook and craigslist.
posted by podboy
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04-Apr-10
That's news to me...
(1) "The Stalking"
If I'm "Facebook stalking," I guess I'd like to know about it, given that I didn't waste much time besides looking up the words "Eames Aluminum Lounge chair" and "Herman Miller Aluminum Lounge Chair" on Google with the intent of purchasing one, and finding (a) A Craiglist post with exactly similar pictures to what was on (b) a Design Addict post reviewing how to identify a vintage Herman Miller Aluminum Lounge chair. Hardly stalking, and no more than 30 seconds to see that two pictures looked similar, and to make note of it. Wild accusations about stalking are uncalled for.

(2) Legitimate Question
For everyone else - as a "new" (thanks to Craigslist!) lounger owner, I do have a couple legitimate questions about the flow-tilt mechanism in the loungers and am wondering about the inner workings of them, i.e., if they have a rubber-insert that allows them to tilt, how long does the rubber last before deteriorating, and does anyone have pictures of repaired mechanisms, or will we just have to buy new ones (which seem impossible to find), cross our fingers, and hope they don't break too?

Thanks for your help in advance... -Jessica
posted by Jessica T
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04-Apr-10
3-400
the chair is worth 3-400 dollars.
no one cares that it says patent pending. if it had saran upholstery it is still only worth 3-4000 if in great condition , but honestly , no one gives a rats ass about the early aluminum groups unless they have some difference in the upholstery or construction.
just my opinion however....
posted by tynellbuyer
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04-Apr-10
Jessica
I gave the name and contact info for a company that often has replacement Flo-Tilt cylinders for sale in an earlier thread... Here:
http://www.designaddict.com/design_addict/forums/index.cfm/4...
posted by fastfwd
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04-Apr-10
sinwonderland...
Conscience bothering you much?
posted by Lunchbox (USA)
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05-Apr-10
Fastfwd, thank you. We...
Fastfwd, thank you. We pored over that thread and after seeing TK's experience with PPF, we've been looking for "tilt-flow" and "tilt-flo"s all over the internet and eBay, hoping that someone would have any other information (or perhaps a few spares.

Serendipity intervened yesterday when we drove to an hour-and-a-half to an antique mall out of state. Lo and behold, we found a couple of them attached to a couple of arm shells that are in nasty condition. If they haven't sold, I'll drive up tomorrow, cough up the ridiculous amount of money that the guy wants for them. Then we can scrap them for parts, restore our loungers, and store the shells until we can restore them too in the future (we'll send them to Hume and Retro Redo we're not so strapped for cash and when restoration doesn't cost two weeks of pay... each).
posted by Jessica T
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05-Apr-10
Don't necessarily have to buy HM...
Jessica: The Flo-Tilt mechanism was made by a company called Bassick. They suppplied many manufacturers, not just Herman Miller, and they sold literally millions of those mechanisms.

Cylinders from at least some of the other manufacturers' chairs fit the HM chairs, so if your antique dealer's arm shells really are priced ridiculously high, you may want to wait and see whether you can find a more pedestrian old Flo-Tilt-equipped office chair for a reasonable price.

And, of course, try calling PPF.
posted by fastfwd
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