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Refurnish Anglepoise Lamp

- 07 Apr 2009
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I'm looking to buy a old rusty anglepoise lamp with old wiring just for the joys of doing it up and having on my desk with the achievement of having it look real nice... So my questions are has any one had any experience on maybe doing this or maybe something similar and would like to give me any tips about rewiring maybe? and taking off the old paint?

Thanks
C

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- 07 Apr 2009

I've done more than quite a f...
I've done more than quite a few Craig - but can you be more specific about exactly what you'll be doing? And do you mean the original Carwardine anglepoise? They're generally fairly easy to get working (providing all the fittings are there) but things like refinishing can be difficult to get right. More info please!

- 07 Apr 2009

refurbish
Craig, I haven't had any experience of refurbishing an original but Anglepoise brought out reproductions of this around 15-20?? years ago and I bought 3.

Recently the switching mechanism wore out and Anglepoise sent 3 replacement switches and didn't charge me anything. I think you would find them helpful if you ever need any replacement parts.

- 07 Apr 2009

Well its a cream colour with...
Well its a cream colour with bits flaking off and light rust on the base so I wanted to take off all the old paint, maybe re-paint the head and base. Also it will need new springs (I think) or could they be polished up and de-rusted? but the main thing will be re-wiring it is the original 1940's/1950's wiring.
Do you have any suggestions on the rubber sections where the wire comes out and where I can get these from. They look like cork or some other material like that on the original.

Hope this all makes sense?
Many thanks

- 08 Apr 2009

thanks annette
Thank you, I will also get in contact with them also
Regards

- 08 Apr 2009

Sounds like a Herbert Terry...
Sounds like a Herbert Terry made Anglepoise. Rewiring is pretty easy although be careful when you take the horseshoe shaped shade holder off as there's a little 'widget' in there to stop the shade revolving all the way around. Try and save the bakelite switch/bulb holder if you have it - if the locking ring won't undo spray some WD40 or similar on it and it should free up. If its a Crabtree switch (it'll say on it) you can rewire the lamp without removing it from the shade.
One of the problems with rewiring is that it was originally designed for the old style silk braided flex - it still available but thicker now (double insulated) so it can be a squeeze running it through the holes. Its still best to use braided flex as then you can earth it on the body. Presuming you are then you'll need about 3 metres. Look on the end of the three strands and you'll see the plastic insulation - blue, brown and green/yellow. Unwind the green strand to a similar length to the flex that will go through the lamp. Feed the other two strands through the holes in the arms until you have about 5" coming through the top hole and replace the shade holder. Strip back the ends of these strands (blue & brown) by about 1 cm to reveal the copper core and attach them to the bulb holder.

- 08 Apr 2009

contd
Make sure they're screwed in tightly. The remaining (green/yellow)length of flex is your earth. Just above the middle spring above the base you should see an oversized washer - undo the nut which hold this in place, cut the strand of flex to length and attach it to the washer and then replace. Put a plug on and you're lamp should be rewired. Obviously this is just a quick guide and I take no responsibility - if you're in any doubt get someone who knows what they're doing to look it over!

The springs are best just cleaned up with a wire brush - try and stretch them out a bit when you're doing it so you get between the wires. If you really have to you can strip the paint from the base and shade (nitromors) and polish up the metal but I really the original paint, even chipped. looks best.


- 10 Apr 2009

is it worth is?
the lamp I'm thinking about buying has the Herbert Terry stamp... but is doesn't have the rolled edge shade, its going to around £50 is it worth it still?
many thanks

- 10 Apr 2009

sorry more info.... it's a 60...
sorry more info.... it's a 60's+ version rather than a pre 50's..... real tempted to but but would not like to waste my money... thanks all

- 10 Apr 2009

What Happened To:
' just for the joys of doing it up and having on my desk with the achievement of having it look real nice' ?

If that's your aim- of course it's worth it!

- 18 Feb 2012

first attempt on refurbishing my cream colour angle poise 75
Dear All,
This is my first attempt in refurbishing the lamp. Wow! There is an earth wire and it is attached to a metal hook, I tried unsoldering it but it won't bend outwards. So now I'm left with a dismantled lamp while trying to rewire it.

Please help!

Will try to post some images once I've uploaded them somewhere.

- 18 Feb 2012

Without knowing any
more than what you've said, maybe your soldering iron or gun will soften the ground (earth) wire end that's bent, so you can straighten it ? You'd have to bend it straight while it's soft from the heat -- so work fast (with needle-nose pliers) and don't burn yourself !

Or do I misunderstand ?

- 19 Feb 2012

re: anglepoise refurbishment establishments
yups I've contacted them but it is way too expensive to repair with them. I doubt he will share with me his expertise in order for me to repair it on my own. hopefully this would be a nice achievement if I could do it on my own and perhaps forge new relationships with hobbyists and enthusiasts like yourself. I believe that British classics should belong to everyone, and I'm trying to live that out.

- 19 Feb 2012

Yeah I agree with breathing...
Yeah I agree with breathing fresh life into any classic icon. This post caught my eye as I have a 50's anglepoise that I need to completly restore. What do you need to do with yours? I was under the impression from what you had said that it was just the replacement of a switch, which is why a posted the 30somethings replacement part list. Im still undecided about what route im going to take with mine. Although im completley with you on learning new skills and refurbishing classic pieces, sometimes to avoid balls-ing something up (especially electrics) its important to realise our limits and seek professional help. Having said that it could be worth having a hunt around online for some anglepoise wiring diagrams. I'll tkae a look to and get back if I find anything.

- 19 Feb 2012

Just checked and judging...
Just checked and judging from what it says on the anglepoise website re-wire kits are available and they can provide online instructions. I reckon your best bet is to drop them e-mail.

http://www.anglepoise.com/lamps.asp

- 19 Feb 2012

true true
true, hope they will be helpful
thanks

- 20 Feb 2012

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How does your friend know that you need a new switch? It wouldn't be that hard to find anyway, those rectangular ones are used on all sorts of things. If the worst comes to the worst you can bypass the switch and wire direct to the bulb holder - you can either put an inline switch on the cord or pull the plug in and out the wall til you find a the right switch. I hope you didn't pay the £50 for it as you can get a mint working one for a tenner or so with a bit of looking

- 20 Feb 2012

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btw the earth wire was never soldered in the first place so you can't therefore unsolder it. The wire is attached to a spade connector which is placed between one of the tightening or assembly screws and its nut. Just undo the screw and the wire will be released. The connector is crimped onto the earth wire so you'll have to prise it open, you can either get a new spade (pence in Maplins) or just use a washer and wrap/tie the earth to it.

- 22 Feb 2012

to: paulanna
http://www.30-something.co.uk/herbert-terry-1227-anglepoise-replacement-...

yups I've seen these it comes with the rubber grommets.

Anglepoise has replied they said 'The lamp you have is an apex 90 and we cannot re-wire this lamp when there is a rocker switch, we suggest to people that when they have a rocker switch they seek an electrician.' - I personally am confused now by the reply on whether mine is a Type 75 - Apex 90 ... whichever it relates to

So it is also because I have issue with replacing the switch on the top of the lamp.

http://www.30-something.co.uk/herbert-terry-type-75-replacement-switch-u...

- 22 Feb 2012

can we just see the pic of...
can we just see the pic of the lamp it would be nice to see the patina on that old anglepoise.

- 23 Feb 2012

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The other switch they used was a simple push pressel switch, on I think, the later 75 model. £6.95 for the replacement kit sounds reasonable - they are good people to deal with btw. I wonder though with buying new flex, switches etc + the time it takes makes it actually worth it for one of these models....they are still quite plentiful and not expensive but I guess you are using it as a learning experience. FWIW Yours is the first round base model (designed by Kenneth Grange) with adjustable springs and 'tuning fork' base. All Anglepoise / Herbert terry lamps after this were of progressively inferior quality

- 23 Feb 2012

paulanna... I am confused whe...
paulanna... I am confused where you got the £50 from? Thats for the whole restroation kit. I was just recommending the in-line switch from 30 something which is £2.95 Plus some new cord at the same price. The Anglepoise isnt that rare or expensive, at all you're right, particulary this later model with the round base. But its clear Craig wants to do it as a learning excerise and for a sense of achivement. If the lamp has only cost him £25-30 and plus the £5.90 for the switch and cord, for a functioning piece of furniture in his house, then he really hasnt done too bad.

- 23 Feb 2012

its sho not craig now...
heya
yups I have a friend he said he will help me out in March
so I will wait till than :)

thank you all, will repost a new image hopefully when it is all done up.

- 24 Feb 2012

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Bob - Craig said his lamp was costing £50 (read the thread), also to buy the correct braided cord will cost rather more than £2.99 as it will need at least 3 metres.

- 24 Feb 2012

sorry...
my apologies Paulanna, it all got a bit confusing as ive realised there were two people talking about different anglepoises my mistake.

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